Defining Baramin by Discontinuity Systematics

One of the primary goals of Baraminologists is to discover and define the boundaries and limits of the Created Kinds of plants and animals. The methods and processes for achieving this goal are being developed and is more formally known as discontinuity systematics.

rel – different processes in science

real – original concept – boundaries

resp – diff/sim methods

right – creation orchard

res –

conc. summ. –

There are groups that deal with alternatives to methodological naturalism … the different process by which to study ….

The basic concepts of DS were first given by Frank Marsh in 1941. They were later refined by Walter ReMine in 1990.

Baraminologists are not directly thinking in terms of methodological naturalism or the alternatives, but they are doing this process. The goals of Baraminology require different approaches to studying morphology, genetics, statistics, etc. for both living and fossil members of Created Kinds.

Baraminologists are trying to discover the limits and boundaries of the original Created Kinds. By default, this employs different processes than evolutionary studies in the relationships of plants or animals. Evolution seeks to find continuity – those smooth transitions and gradations from one type of animal into another. Not only does Creation not expect to find such transitions, it expects to find gaps between different types of organisms where there are no relationships. These gaps are formally called discontinuities.

As Baraminology models have many aspects based on Scripture, …


Because Scripture states that Created Kinds are able to reproduce, the number one criteria that baraminologists seek is the ability to hybridize. If two species are able to hybridize, they are both within the same Kind. Evolutionism expects species to be separate and unable to breed together or hybridize. Creationism expects that the different species of animals or plants within a Kind can hybridize.

Similar Procedures

There are several procedures that are the same or similar to evolutionary studies. This includes cladistics, ….

Statistical Baraminology

A method currently in development is statistical Baraminology. This involves …

one must properly understand the relationship betwen kinds with micro andmacro evolution- DS looks for boundaries of common descent. :: discontinuities inlife and to common ancestry. :: way of quantifying discontinuities in the tree of life :: creation orchard :: boundaries that cannot be crossed :: This area of research is also one of the places where “intelligent design” creationist and young-earth creationist “research” overlap. ::

A good example is when a new fossil human intermediate is proclaimed by the media. evoutionists are quick to assume human evolution is proven while creationists are quick to say it is just an ape, a fraud, or ???. The fact is that we do not yet know the exact extent and boundaries of the human or ape kinds. There is a surprising amount of variation in most, if not all, kinds and humans are no diferent. Consider that both evolutionists and creationists acept neanderthal adn ???????? as humans.

Good science follows the evience where it leads. Evolutionists shun some of the possibilities through methodolgical naturalism. Creationists should be careful not to sweng the pendulum too far the other way by using what can be called methodological creationism.

Baraminologists do not typicaly think in terms of methodological naturalism or alternatives, yet they are delaing with the core concepts of this topic. the different processes usd to determine created inds.

Evolutionists are seeking the missink links, the connections that make a continual lineage in the evolutionary tree of life. Baraminologists, instead, are focused on the gaps (discontinuities) that exist between created Kinds as shown in the cration Orchard.

Many scientists hold views based on presuppositions whether they are aware fo them or not. This is probably ot a bad thing as it can help generate many different ideas / hypothesis to test. However, once a test begins and data is collected, the presuppositions must be left behind. Presuppositions cannot be used to interpret the data in good science, but rather the scientist must follow where the evidence leads. Many creationists and evolutionists, especially non-scientists, can be found mixing science and isms through presuppositions without being aware of the problems and damage it causes.

In a photography contest, the judge should be unbiased regarding subject matter or person entering. The judging is typically based on quality, composition, artistic effect, and so forth. IF a contest is held and every person that wins or shows has a baby in the image, the judge has probably shown a strong bias towards babies that is unfair to other images that were probably as good or psosibly better than the baby images.

Walter ReMine brought the concept of Discontinuity Systematics into the realm of Baraminology. Discontinuities are described as “large scale morphological gaps and an absence of large-scale phylogeny”. Simply put, this means that there were big differences in appearance and no line of distinct ancestral lines from which it came. This was an important concept since the Theory of Evolution has no place for discontinuities. In fact, quite the opposite is true in that Evolution must look for connecting relationships. This work also brought the phrase ‘successive approximation’ in as studies come closer and closer to the proper boundaries of created kinds.

Last Updated: 09/01/2017
Todd Elder

Todd Elder

Todd Elder has a deep desire to understand and experience Creation. As a Baraminologist, his current research includes developing the Katagenos Species Concept, the Natanzera Classification System, and the Floral Formula Method of determining Plant Kinds. As an author and speaker, his books and seminar materials are designed to encourage a growing relationship with the Creator.
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